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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, '14, 6:38 pm 
The two Wrens are similar type, different models, in all likelihood. That I agree with. "Wren" could be the general type of android/cyborg, but there would be varying subtypes/submodels.

I think the PSIII Wren is 900+ years old, and, if we go by the American timeline, puts him at roughly the same age as the PSIV Wren.

I don't think the PSIV Wren is a "budget" model at all... Just a model aimed at a different use. PSIII Wren was a smaller (in physical size) model with troop transportation capabilities. In combat, he seemed to be more geared towards rapid, though somewhat lighter, encounters. In terms of present-day gear, he'd be kind of like a heavily armed jeep/humvee sort of thing.

PSIV Wren, however, appears to be designed for technical maintenance and more "siege" weaponry (given his compatibility with Positron Bolt units). He's physically larger and therefore can use larger, more powerful, weapons, though doesn't have the same mobility -- hence the lack of transformation capabilities. He's more of a tank or mobile siege engine type than PSIII Wren.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, '17, 5:19 pm 
Wren from PSIII and Wren from PSIV aren't the same. PSIII Wren was originally called Shiren, while PSIV Wren was originally called Forren.

In Phantasy Star III, Miun and Siren collapse, even though Mieu and Wren can stay alive while doing more dangerous activities, so it's safe to presume Mieu and Wren will still work after the game.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, '17, 4:31 pm 
True that the two "Wrens" (who are not too Wren then !) are differents ! And yes they are gonna last longer : as for Miun, if she seems to be in a bad shape, its seems to be due to the Laya/Orakio wars from 1000 years ago.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 3, '18, 2:32 pm 
Alternately, the Wren series is a modular design designed to incorporate many different kinds of parts. Both 3-Wren and 4-Wren end up getting three sets of upgrade parts, it's just one spends it all on mobility and the other spends all his slots on guns.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 1, '18, 6:01 pm 
The bottom line is that PS3 Wren is "Searren" and PS4 Wren is "Forren;" these are the names in the Japanese versions. ( Interestingly enough the "Searre" of Searren is a cognate of the term "three" and the "Forre" of Forren, is of course a cognate of the term "four," as in Phantasy Star Three and Four.

The only other thing to mention is a correction of dates:

PS1: 342
PS2: 1284/85
Dvastation ( Orakio/Laya/ Dark Force) War: 1284+1000=2284
PS3: 1284+2000= 3284
PS4: 2284

The only reason why its less than 1000 years between PS1 and PS2 is because Palma was destroyed, which was part of the "seal" that The Great Light placed on the Profound Darkness.

PostPosted: Fri May 25, '18, 1:02 pm 
Zio_Falz : thank you so much about all those explanations ! And all about the different dates :)

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