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PostPosted: Thu May 13, '10, 6:38 am 
A bunch of them have green hair in PSIV. Maybe Lutz + Shir? ;)


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PostPosted: Thu May 13, '10, 6:43 am 
Well, then. Maybe now is a good time to bring up my theory of Anna+Lutz.


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PostPosted: Thu May 13, '10, 6:45 am 
Thoul wrote:A bunch of them have green hair in PSIV. Maybe Lutz + Shir? ;)


I'm being facetious! :lol:

Lutz and Shir is comical:

Lutz: Shir, did you steal my wand AGAIN!?

Shir: O_o


(Snorb, you're better at this than I... :blank:)


Last edited by Rune_Walsh on Thu May 13, '10, 9:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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PostPosted: Thu May 13, '10, 12:48 pm 
Thoul wrote:
tilinelson2 wrote:All the translations are not official (Compendium, re-translations), made by fans. Why trust these translations since we don't know anything about who translated, apart that they had some knowledge in Japanese (how much?) and they were fans. Remember that traduttore, traditore (translator, traitor).


The same argument can be applied to official translations. We don't know anything about the people who translated PSI, PSII, PSIII, or PSIV for Sega. Who can say how much knowledge they had of Japanese? Their translations become even more suspect if you consider all the things they deliberately changed, like items and characters. They may have even made mistakes, like referring to Noah as "her."

We have to put a reasonable amount of trust into the official translations or we simply would not have anything related to Phantasy Star at all. Even then, we all have to understand that the translations are not necessarily perfect and different people at Sega have given us different translations of the same words.

If we're going to do that, why not extend the same level of trust to fan translations? These people spend a great deal of time translating this text for all of us and get nothing in return for it. If a portion of a translation is pointed out to be inaccurate, then certainly we should take that into account in some way. That doesn't mean we should automatically assume every translation is untrustworthy.


I know there are some mistakes in official translations, but they were approved by Sega for release. There are some differences too, like, for example, there are some mistakes in English translation that are not present in Portuguese translation (I've played both), so it is not that bad.

It is not that I distrust all the translations made by fans and I know they usually do their work not to deceive anyone, but people are fast to disregard the official translation in favor of a fan translation. We don't know if a particular sentence was misunderstood by the fan translator, the same way as it could have happened to the official translator.


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PostPosted: Thu May 13, '10, 6:34 pm 
tilinelson2 wrote:We don't know if a particular sentence was misunderstood by the fan translator, the same way as it could have happened to the official translator.


That is true. All the translations, official or fan, should be taken with a grain of salt. Sega does ultimately determine the official timeline of events for the series through their approved releases. However, in the absence of Sega approved translations of extra material like the Compendium or Text Adventures, I think there is little harm in meshing the fan translations with the official translation text.

In cases where there is a direct conflict - like English PSIII happening 1000 years after PSII instead of 2000 years - then I would agree that the approved translation should take priority in respect to conversations about the English games. However, we should also consider that the approved translation has no bearing on what is official for the Japanese version, because any future official PS games will use the Japanese version as their basis. Fan translations give us a greater ability to understand the differences between the versions and material that might be referenced in future games.


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