Noah and Lutz

The $ Avenger wrote:

If you go by "canon", meaning exactly what is said in games, then the simple solution is that Noah and Lutz are two different people.

Negative. If you go by exactly what is said in the games, all 3 of the Algo chapters that is, then it's clearly stated that Noah was the first generation Lutz. I could see people saying that Lutz from PSII isn't Noah going solely by the English translations, but it's still a bit of a stretch.

Personally, I always found Ripplinger's theory to be grasping at straws desperately. I never understood it either, since eliminating Lutz from PSII being Lutz from PSI destroys an important link between the two games (and with PSIV as well, since Kyra/Shess' first mention of Lutz is obviously meant to conjure a belief that Lutz is still alive even 2000 years after PSI).

-Corey

Ya know, we must sound like a bunch of nerds trying to figure out the scientific, historical, and whateverifical past present and future of a video game. XDDDD

*nod nod*

It's fun though, so there's nothing wrong with caring about the story.

I played PSII first and then the original Phantasy Star.. when I met Noah I automatically assumed he was Lutz and it was just a bad translation between the games (like the planet names).

From a storytelling standpoint, it is so much cooler to meet someone from the original cast than a totally random dude who likes to sleep for years on end.

the dialog in Generations II says that the Lutz in PSII is the same Lutz from PSI. Plus you can look at his pics from both the games, I'd say when Eusis (I refuse to call him Rolf) meets Lutz on Dezo he possibly aged just a few years or so before he entered the chamber for his 1000 year rest. Hell if you look at when you first meet Lutz in Generations 1 and then meet him in Generations 2 he's wearing the same exact uniform. Same facial expressions. Alot is the same so I say yes to him being the same person.

*nod nod*

I only said that because I've begun to learn basic katakana, kanji and other japanese and I'm at the point to where I first meet Lutz on Generations II and from what he says, as well as one of the espers inside the building they also say that he is the same guy who fought with Alis in the past.

Since Ripplinger's theories were mentioned, I decided to read them again. I share the opinion that he is grasping straws, in fact, some of the arguments he provides oppose his theory in my eyes and support that Lutz is indeed supposed to be Noah.