Generation 1's Collaboration system

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Re: Generation 1's Collaboration system

Postby tilinelson2 » Wed Jan 4, '12, 10:41 am

Phantasy Star with materia system? Hmmm.... :p
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Re: Generation 1's Collaboration system

Postby Wanderer From Ys » Wed Jan 4, '12, 2:22 pm

It's not quite that complicated, there are only 6 crystals in the entire game, and they are all available from the very first shop in the game, although they are expensive at that point.
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Re: Generation 1's Collaboration system

Postby tilinelson2 » Thu Jan 5, '12, 10:41 am

I know, I was just joking :D
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Re: Generation 1's Collaboration system

Postby myau56 » Thu Jan 5, '12, 1:19 pm

May be interesting ! I didn't know that system existed ! Thanks for sharing. Maybe one day I'll be able to play this game...
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Re: Generation 1's Collaboration system

Postby Wanderer From Ys » Thu Jan 5, '12, 9:30 pm

Myau, just import it. I don't know any Japanese at all, I'm getting through it just fine. The story really isn't a big deal, since you probably know it already anyway.
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Re: Generation 1's Collaboration system

Postby Wanderer From Ys » Sun Jan 8, '12, 1:25 am

Now that I finished the game, I can talk about collabo's a little more. Money is definately no object. I finished the game with over 200k, and I had been buy crystals.

Thouls trick of equipping heal crystals, works well. The effect stacks too, so you can you equip 2 of them, and get double the effect. I used this setup for random battles.

The Collabo attacks are very strong, but the crystals have a ridiculously high rate of breaking. So high that it's a surprise when you get more than 1 use out of it. I've only gotten more than 2 uses once. The single use crystals last a bit longer, but a I would have to test it some more to find out how many.

Thunderstorm is overpowered, and breaks the game. It does big damage, and causes paralysis 100% of the time for 2-3 rounds, and It also works on bosses. If you equip it on all characters, that's like 12 rounds of free hits. I beat Lassic without getting hit.
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Re: Generation 1's Collaboration system

Postby Thoul » Tue Feb 7, '12, 11:26 pm

Wow, that's serious overkill. In my new playthrough I've been grinding enough money to get an HP crystal for Alis and Odin. It's already helped a lot; most of my healing now gets concentrated on Myau, who has no weapon yet and thence no crystal.

I've read one of the other crystals prevents status ailments. I may try that one. If it works 100% of the time, that means no poison or paralysis. It could make the game a lot faster.
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Re: Generation 1's Collaboration system

Postby enigmaopoeia » Wed Feb 8, '12, 1:06 am

In case someone wants to read up on the combinations of the Collaboration System, here are some Japanese pages:
http://a-zap.net/GPo1collaboration.htm
http://www.geocities.jp/kyoji42/game/ps_kou02.html
http://sunpillar.jf.land.to/urawaza/ps2 ... tar_1.html
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Re: Generation 1's Collaboration system

Postby myau56 » Wed Feb 8, '12, 9:39 am

This "materia system" seems to be very interesting, even if we are not forced to use it...
Thanks for the links ! Can you read japanese ?
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Re: Generation 1's Collaboration system

Postby Snorb » Wed Feb 8, '12, 4:36 pm

I can try to translate it a bit- I can read the katakana easily enough, but everything else I'm relying on Google Translate and a GameFAQs guide for. =p

Anyways... the translation. It looks like certain characters can use certain Collabo spells with certain weapons. (And Lutz seems to be the only male character in the core series who can use boomerangs!)

First Crystal: Flaeli
+Flaeli: Gi Flaeli - Fire damage to one enemy, as Lutz's spell (Usable by anyone with any weapon.)
+Hewn: Firestorm - Fire damage to a group of enemies (Usable by Myau with a claw, Odin with an axe.)
+Tandle: Disaster - Fire damage to every enemy (Usable by Odin with a gun, Lutz with a slicer.)
+Brose: Explosion - Strong Fire damage to one enemy (Usable by Alisa with a knife, Myau with a claw.)
+Heal: Firewall - Strong Fire damage to one enemy (Usable by Alisa with a sword, Myau with a claw, Odin with an axe.)
+Cure: Hell Gate (katakana reads "Heruinbetei.") - Physical damage to one enemy, most likely useless against flying enemies (Usable by Alisa with a knife, Lutz with a staff.)

First Crystal: Hewn
+Flaeli: Firestorm - Fire damage to a group of enemies (Usable by Myau with a claw, Odin with an axe.)
+Hewn: Gi Hewn - Wind damage to a group of enemies, as Lutz's spell (Usable by anyone with any weapon.)
+Tandle: Tornado - Wind damage to every enemy (Usable by Alisa with a sword, Odin with a gun.)
+Brose: Blizzard - Ice damage to every enemy (Usable by Myau with a tusk, Lutz with a slicer.)
+Heal: Recovery - Heals the entire party (Usable by Alisa with a knife, Odin with a gun.)
+Cure: Medical Treat (katakana reads "Storm Medical") - Removes status ailments from the whole party (Usable by Alisa with a sword, Lutz with a staff.)

First Crystal: Tandle
+Flaeli: Disaster - Fire damage to every enemy (Usable by Odin with a gun, Lutz with a slicer.)
+Hewn: Tornado - Wind damage to every enemy (Usable by Alisa with a sword, Odin with a gun.)
+Tandle: Gi Tandle - Lightning damage to every enemy, as Lutz's spell (Usable by anyone with any weapon.)
+Brose: Flash Freeze - Ice damage to every enemy (Usable by Myau with a tusk, Lutz with a slicer.)
+Heal: Last Photon - Fully restores one character's Mana; obviously useless on Odin (Usable by Myau with a claw, Lutz with a staff.)
+Cure: Thunderstorm - Strong Lightning damage to every enemy (Usable by Alisa with a sword, Myau with a tusk, Odin with an axe.)

First Crystal: Brose
+Flaeli: Explosion - Strong Fire damage to one enemy (Usable by Alisa with a knife, Myau with a claw.)
+Hewn: Blizzard - Ice damage to every enemy (Usable by Myau with a tusk, Lutz with a slicer.)
+Tandle: Flash Freeze - Ice damage to every enemy (Usable by Myau with a tusk, Lutz with a slicer.)
+Brose: Gi Brose - Ice damage to every enemy, as Myau's spell (Usable by anyone with any weapon.)
+Heal: Luster Vanish - Strong Physical damage to one (non-flying?) enemy (Usable by Alisa with a sword, Odin with an axe, Lutz with a staff.)
+Cure: Snow Slider - Ice damage to every enemy (Usable by Alisa with a knife, Myau with a tusk, Lutz with a slicer.)

First Crystal: Heal
+Flaeli: Firewall - Strong Fire damage to one enemy (Usable by Alisa with a sword, Myau with a claw, Odin with an axe.)
+Hewn: Recovery - Heals the entire party (Usable by Alisa with a knife, Odin with a gun.)
+Tandle: Last Photon - Fully restores one character's Mana; obviously useless on Odin (Usable by Myau with a claw, Lutz with a staff.)
+Brose: Luster Vanish - Strong Physical damage to one (non-flying?) enemy (Usable by Alisa with a sword, Odin with an axe, Lutz with a staff.)
+Heal: Do Heal (pronounced "dough heal") - Heals one character for 80 Health, as Myau and Lutz's spell (Usable by anyone with any weapon.)
+Cure: Return - Revives one dead character (Usable by Myau with a tusk, Lutz with a staff.)

First Crystal: Cure
+Flaeli: Hell Gate - Physical damage to one enemy, most likely useless against flying enemies (Usable by Alisa with a knife, Lutz with a staff.)
+Hewn: Medical Treat (katakana reads "Storm Medical") - Removes status ailments from the whole party (Usable by Alisa with a sword, Lutz with a staff.)
+Tandle: Thunderstorm - Strong Lightning damage to every enemy (Usable by Alisa with a sword, Myau with a tusk, Odin with an axe.)
+Brose: Snow Slider - Ice damage to every enemy (Usable by Alisa with a knife, Myau with a tusk, Lutz with a slicer.)
+Heal: Return - Revives one dead character (Usable by Myau with a tusk, Lutz with a staff.)
+Cure: Nothing happens.

Alisa can use Firewall, Tornado, Medical Treat, Thunderstorm, and Luster Banish while she wields a sword.
Alisa can use Explosion, Hell Gate, Recovery, Flash Freeze, and Snow Slider while she wields a knife.

Myau can use Blizzard, Thunderstorm, Snow Slider, and Return while he wields a tusk.
Myau can use Firestorm, Explosion, Firewall, and Last Photon while he wields a claw.

Odin can use Firestorm, Firewall, Thunderstorm, and Luster Banish while he wields an axe.
Odin can use Disaster, Tornado, Recovery, and Flash Freeze while he wields a gun.

Lutz can use Hell Gate, Medical Treat, Last Photon, Luster Vanish, and Return while he wields a staff.
Lutz can use Disaster, Blizzard, and Snow Slider while he wields a slicer.

Effects of equipping a crystal:
Flaeli- Weapons inflict Fire damage.
Hewn- Weapons inflict Wind damage.
Tandle- Weapons inflict Lightning damage.
Brose- Weapons damage Ice damage.
Heal- Character regenerates 6.25% of their maximum health after their turn in combat. (If wearing two Heal Crystals, the character regenerates 12.5% of their maximum health.)
Cure- Character recovers from status penalties after their turn in combat.
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