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 Post subject: Downloading music
PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, '09, 4:58 am 
Wow, do you believe this?????

http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol ... 534542.ece


That's a lot of money! :ill:


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 Post subject: Re: Downloading music
PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, '09, 11:41 am 
Yeah it's kind of crazy. I can't imagine how they expect a single mom to come up with that. Funny thing is, if that put her children in jeopardy, who's to say she couldn't sue the big music industry for harming her kids and thus getting what she owes or more?


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 Post subject: Re: Downloading music
PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, '09, 3:07 pm 
Sometimes I REALLY detest copyright law. Seriously...how is she going to get that kind of money? Record companies are greedy, and I bet hardly a CENT of that money would go to the actual artist. I hate copyright law. :fiery:


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 Post subject: Re: Downloading music
PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, '09, 8:03 pm 
They're never going to get the money and they know that. The whole goal of suing people wasn't to get money, it was to set legal precedent and say to everyone: if you share music, we can ruin your life. It's just a bullying tactic. It has also largely failed to actually stop music sharing; that's why the lawsuits are being abandoned in favor of pressuring the ISP.


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 Post subject: Re: Downloading music
PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, '09, 10:17 pm 
Thoul wrote:They're never going to get the money and they know that. The whole goal of suing people wasn't to get money, it was to set legal precedent and say to everyone: if you share music, we can ruin your life. It's just a bullying tactic. It has also largely failed to actually stop music sharing; that's why the lawsuits are being abandoned in favor of pressuring the ISP.


This has to be the most accurate assessment I've encountered of the motivations of the RIAA in these occasional high profile cases. As Caged Wolf has pointed out, the original artists gain little in the way of royalties; the record companies are just concerned about the potential dent to their huge profit margins. I just feel sorry for the individuals of whom they are attempting to make an example. Music sharing preceded the advent of online file exchange networks. People borrowed records and cassettes from friends and public libraries and made copies. The only fundamental difference was that these activities were (and remain) almost impossible to monitor.

The Canadians have shown the most sense here. In 2004, Canadian judge Konrad von Finckenstein refused the Canadian Recording Industry Association (CRIA) a court order to force five Canadian ISPs to reveal the names, phone numbers and addresses of 29 file-sharers the CRIA believed were infringing copyright.

In his ruling, Justice von Finckenstein compared the actions of the file sharers to the presence of a photocopy machine in a library. "I cannot see a real difference between a library that places a photocopy machine in a room full of copyrighted material and a computer user that places a personal copy on a shared directory linked to a P2P service," he stated.


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 Post subject: Re: Downloading music
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, '09, 6:04 am 
Srijita wrote:

The Canadians have shown the most sense here. In 2004, Canadian judge Konrad von Finckenstein refused the Canadian Recording Industry Association (CRIA) a court order to force five Canadian ISPs to reveal the names, phone numbers and addresses of 29 file-sharers the CRIA believed were infringing copyright.

In his ruling, Justice von Finckenstein compared the actions of the file sharers to the presence of a photocopy machine in a library. "I cannot see a real difference between a library that places a photocopy machine in a room full of copyrighted material and a computer user that places a personal copy on a shared directory linked to a P2P service," he stated.


I like that Judge. :yes: Makes sense to me.


Also, I get the feeling from reading the article that even though the judgement was so high against the lady that the people may still have been willing to settle for the smaller amount they offered in the beginning. I know any amount is huge when you just don't have it, but a few thousand is a whole lot less than the huge amount given in the end.


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 Post subject: Re: Downloading music
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, '09, 7:37 am 
That's a load of bull. These people don't realize that if people actually like the songs of the artists, most will buy the cd or at the very least, still pay to go to concerts. If I were an artist, I would be happy that people were sharing my music with others.


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 Post subject: Re: Downloading music
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, '09, 3:16 pm 
XxEnslavedNekoxX wrote:That's a load of bull. These people don't realize that if people actually like the songs of the artists, most will buy the cd or at the very least, still pay to go to concerts. If I were an artist, I would be happy that people were sharing my music with others.


That right there is more or less the end point of a an episode of South Park. I think the name of it is 'Christian Rock Hard' or something along those lines.


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 Post subject: Re: Downloading music
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, '09, 3:43 pm 
Yup, that and their whole speech about how movies belong to the people who watch them only this time with uh...music :D


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 Post subject: Re: Downloading music
PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, '09, 11:43 am 
Let's all just stop downloading music, buying it, going to concerts. And let's not buy anything music related, or post videos or make fan forums. And let's see how happy the music people will be :D It's ridiculous. You can't even share a music video on youtube. It's so annoying and makes no sense


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